By: lazaruslong
But 30% or so of this country is most certainly not in this camp orly
By: lazaruslong
I think troy was using language that approximates the viewpoint of many conservatives Republicans, not advocating that viewpoint himself. Yeah that shits pretty fucking tiresome. He’s not saying it. He’s, you know, just sayin’.
By: yesster
Exactly – the Republicans are out to prove that government can’t work, and they actively work to break governement systems, just to prove they’re right. There’s nothing wrong with medicine in this country if you are independently wealthy. Nailed it there.
By: @troy
Are you actually saying that welfare recipients have a choice of healthcare providers, from which to receive the best quality heathcare? It doesn’t have to be hypothetical, my Mom is on Medicare in California (which goes by the google-proof “MediCal”). Her doctors in the private sector when she was under Dad’s insurance don’t take MediCal patients, since MediCal doesn’t pay them enough, and the supply/demand is apparently such that they don’t need to. But she DOES have access to a simulacrum of socialized medicine within the MediCal system, with access to 3 or 4 doctors in the fifth largest city in California. They key thing for conservatives is that the MediCal people do get some access to services, without impacting the really-for-profit mainstream. She’s got an XXXogist appointment scheduled next month and I think this was the specialist being a nice guy and making an exception for her. Conservatives are fine with that. What they don’t want to see happen is that everyone, ie. them, have to join the MediCal system and wait for service with the campesinos and other undesirables. They also know doctors don’t want that.
By: kliuless
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By: palidor
Actually that last post was a couple weeks ago. But still, mere hours after I watch it, here it is! Maybe that means MeFi is failing me.
By: @troy
when doctors are turning away welfare recipients? By welfare I meant Medicare/Medicaid means-tested style welfare that Reagan and his AMA backers grudgingly allow, not welfare for the able-bodied. Those that pass the means test, ie the poor, have fuck-all power in this country, of course, so having some half-assed welfare assistance for medical services is not threatening to the Conservative Agenda of keeping gummint out of their private [economical] affairs. Plus of course if the indigent have a life-threatening condition they can get treated in the ER. I tried to make sense of Ron Paul’s recent interview and couldn’t find any traction, other than gummint spending bad, freedom good. To clarify all that, I think Conservatives don’t mind mainstreaming SOME charity cases into the private system, but they don’t want to see the entire system turn into a “government program” on the model of the NHS of the UK, or the halfway-house that is single-payer up in Canada. Or France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Holland, Finland, or Japan’s system. We ‘mericans value our freedoms more than they. <— conservative viewpoint attempt
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